Inspired by Unmatched: Bruce Lee, I made a “Bruce Lee” fighter and uploaded it to BGG last September.
https://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/208726/bruce-lee-cage-match

I was thinking Sniper Shot could be comboed with the “upgraded” flamethrower though I don’t know if it would always work that way in a game. But that was the idea.

Flamethrower at 3 spaces would be hard to play if you didn’t combo it with another card. Because the melee opponent (I guess its different if you play it against another shooter, but oh well) can usually just close the distance and hit Jango twice (4 times in 2 v 2). I was thinking the 6 spaces would allow the card to be a viable hit and run card in its own right, and also could be comboed with Sniper Shot for a big attack.

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Just a conceptual thought since I haven’t had a chance to play this in a really long time, but I’m curious if it would be possible to make Jango’s hit and run game actually work, as opposed to your tweak which makes him a lot like Boba.

I’m just curious conceptually how you think the following tweak might work, compared to yours.

x3 Rocket Retreat- A4 After attacking, move Jango to any open space.

X2 Fire Up the Jet Pack- Move Jango Fett to any open space. Playing this card does not count as an action.

X2 Flamethrower- Move all enemy characters adjacent to Jango Fett up to 6 spaces each. Each affected character receives 3 damage.

x1 Missile Launch- A7 Draw 3 Cards.

Zam Talent Cards

x3 Sniper Shot- A1* Add 1 to the attack value of this card for each open space separating Zam from the target.

X1 Assassination- A7 After attacking, move Zam to any open space.

So I guess the one thing that really stretches the definition of “tweak” is Sniper Shot since that card does something completely different than in the Hasbro version, which combos with Flamethrower or Assassination. I upped flamethrower to 3 damage to keep the DD the same as the Hasbro version despite getting rid of Wrist Cable entirely (a card which is already identical to a Boba Fett card and let’s face it, Hasbro Boba is at least much closer to working than Hasbro Jango.)

Jango still doesn’t have a lot of kill power, but his number of keep away cards is almost doubled to 7. I’m curious if you think that would help him to win enough more games, or if you still think he’d be too weak.

Looking forward to the updated deck!

Awesome insightful post. How far are you along with the project of your very own space pirate game? To finally have a game in that genre which eliminates all the flaws you mentioned would be great.

I like the concept in general but INSTILL COURAGE is something I would avoid playing as it reduces the number of PERSITANCE attacks you could play. I also don’t get why a 2nd one is considered better by you?
Maybe a big card (maybe an attack) that allows/forces you to reshuffle the discard pile into the draw pile would help? This way you could load up PERSISTANCE for a big attack and than shuffle those attacks back into your draw pile maybe for more smaller attacks…?

Looks cool, my concern though would be that as an opponent I would never attack his weak minors, keeping him weak as well. Do I miss something or is this really the big weak spot of the deck?

Thank you for this deck!

Does Wrath really mean everyone, or just the adjacent minors?

Will it be safe for me to keep this deck the same then, but just modify the starting HP?

Just found this page. I’ve been working on a game that looks almost the exact same! I have my prototype of 91 hexes, and a separate mini hex map (although I use mine for a different purpose that you do). I’ll give your game a whirl. If it scratches the itch that made me start designing mine, I’ll just stick with yours 🙂

Hello. Loved this post. Did you go forward with working on this game? I just found this blog post after having the exact same thoughts, and started working on my own game which is very similar to what you describe here.

But if you’re already in middle of the process, I’ll probably just stop working on mine!

I think Mind Probe and Focused Rage are a bit overpowered.

I will probably change Focused Rage to a Direct Damage card of say 3 from range like a blaster. As for Mind Probe, go from 2 cards to 1 and Force Restrain from 2 to 3.

I like the deck a lot. I really do. But, I really think Rey needs a Blue deck. After all Rey becomes…”All The Jedi”.

Also, I think the HP needs to be no less than 17. I will go with 18 as I want her in a higher tier.

This will be a bit of a read, so apologies ahead of time, but this comes from a first-time Kickstarter that (is likely to have) failed to succeed.

TL:DR; Kickstarter is fickle, and marketing, visibility and reach is more important than you might think.

Our first efforts on Kickstarter have resulted in what looks to be a failure to meet the campaign goal. Some of this is undoubtedly down to the nuances of being new to the production of commercial boardgames, but a lot of it is down to visibility. I have spoken to many people (of both successful and unsuccessful Kickstarter campaigns) who have provided an overwhelmingly aligned opinion – going onto Kickstarter without a prebaked audience is almost guaranteed to result in a failure.

That’s not to say this is the case with everyone. Those with the ‘killer product’ are just as much likely to have runaway success as those that are just ‘in the right place at the right time’ (another form of ‘secret sauce’ that eludes many of us).

Marketing is expensive. I ran a multi-week Facebook campaign that yielded a decent ROI on money spent vs. new backers. If all of my backers came from that avenue, I calculated that I would’ve spent about 30% of my budget on marketing to assist in reaching my goal. That’s a decent chunk of your operating profit right there.

My naivete in launching a campaign without much market reach was a mistake. I felt that we had a strong campaign pitch and pretty good graphic design / assets. We were a couple of days late with a playthrough video, but based on the analytics from Kickstarter, only about 46% were willing to watch a 2 minute promo video right to the end. I’m not sure how this compares with other campaigns.

I was happy with the conversion rate of visitors vs. converted backers – this tells me that the campaign does have enough meat on the bones to be viable. But again, the numbers do show that there weren’t enough people from non-KS origins hitting the page. The often given values of ‘50% from Kickstarter’ are pretty accurate, in my opinion, so that effectively validates the proposition that you need to generate 50% of the campaign’s funding from other sources.

These are hard, but valuable lessons to learn by being burned on the first try.
Part of the problem is that if you’re an independent developer, there is no capital to start producing great prototypes for sending out to reviewers and other such mechanisms that seem to be part and parcel of many successful Kickstarters. That’s not to say you can’t start basic and ‘work with what you’ve got’, but in reality – the best campaigns, and those that seem to succeed, seem to have all of these pieces in concert.

This won’t be the first and last time I’ll try. It’s hard to watch something you’ve laboured over for years get lost in the dust of bigger and better things going on, but this industry seems less about being ‘the next big thing’ and more about being visible, even at a low level. Building an audience and cultivating awareness about-a-thing is just as , if not more important than the quality of the actual campaign that promotes it.

Hopefully I can look back on this post one day and see that the application of these lessons allowed me to navigate the murky waters of Kickstarter successfully, so that we can at least have the first title under the belt.

Like I already said. Love the deck. Curious how it plays. The pdf is missing the health chart though and here DROID ARMY is no power combat and has no value I believe that is wrong?

We’ve run three FlickFleet projects on Kickstarter and they’ve all had a lot of backers come from Kickstarter. Though I wonder at the accuracy of that – it’s in Kickstarter’s interest to show how much they bring to the party, so backers who followed a link in an ad and then clicked the remind me link and back after the reminder email – do they count against the ad or Kickstarter: Reminder email?
I think if your project is successful, you tend to get featured more by KS too, our projects:
1) Funded with 4 hours to spare, 101% funded, KS brought 46%
2) Funded in 3 days, 188% funded, KS brought 56%
3) Funded in 15 mins, 3744% funded, KS brought 67%
So funding early means you get more KS support. We’re going back to Kickstarter again in 3 weeks, so I’ll have more data soon!

Just a side note: INTO THE WOODS has all 3 symbols, each on one different card.

Raistlin

Hey there isn’t a back for these guys? It’s the same as page 1

You guys should do a Boba Fett and Fennec Shand deck, that would be really cool!

Its been awhile since I’ve played/haven’t seen Mandalorian but check the site now and again.

32 hit points does seem ludicrously high. Most sets in SWED don’t have more than 28, and we’re talking all the points being “major characters”, *and* there’s the potential for “wasted damage” (if your killing blow on one of the troopers does more damage than the health a trooper has remaining, it doesn’t transfer to another trooper.)

Even if the deck itself somehow played moderate or weak, it still seems like a heck of a lot of hit points to carve through for no reason, given you said even all four of these guys are no match for a jedi.

I’d probably do 5 or 6 hit points each (6 would best fit the normal distribution of “total hit points” for a deck, while 5 would be accommodating the fact that these guys are all major characters. I could see a case for 7 if you only had to kill 3 of the 4 to win, even then 8 would kinda seem like a lot.

Where are the rules of the game?

Hi. I would like to know about the “rules” of the game?

Hey, the link doesn’t work? any chance this could work again?

I know, the Boost 4 for those cards may be very strong. It is the tweak I’m monitoring the most.
Alternatively I also considered to remove it and add the “DRAW 1 CARD.” text as the last sentence in Arthur’s ability (so he can draw when feinted).